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Can I use unfed sourdough starter, or discard, as-is, to make a sourdough bread recipe?

August 16, 2024 by admin Leave a Comment

Using Unfed Sourdough Starter Directly in Bread Recipes: Proceed with Caution

As a seasoned sourdough baker, I’ve been asked many times whether it’s possible to use sourdough starter that hasn’t been fed – what we call “sourdough discard” – directly in a bread recipe. The answer is yes, it is possible, but there are some important considerations to keep in mind.

The Fundamentals: Sourdough Dough as a “Gigantic Starter”

The premise behind using unfed sourdough starter in a bread recipe is actually quite sound. When you think about it, the dough itself is essentially a “gigantic starter” that we’re feeding with the flour, water, and other ingredients.

Just like a regular sourdough starter, this dough will go through the same fermentation process – it will rise, peak, and then begin to fall as the yeasts and bacteria consume the available nutrients. The key difference is simply the scale and ratios involved.

So yes, you can absolutely take that unfed sourdough discard and mix it right into your bread dough. The dough ingredients will act as a “feeding” for the dormant, unfed starter, kickstarting the fermentation all over again.

The Caveat: Fading Leavening Power

However, it’s important to understand that the more time passes since the sourdough starter was last fed, the more its leavening power begins to fade. Over time, the unfed starter develops characteristics that are less than ideal for bread baking – it becomes more acidic, more alcoholic, and more sour in flavor. This can result in a bread with poor ovenspring and an undesirable tangy taste.

Unpredictable Fermentation Timeline

Without the starter being at its peak of activity, the fermentation timeline for the dough becomes much harder to predict. It will take significantly longer to reach the desired rise, and the timing can be quite variable depending on how long ago the starter was last fed.

Difficulty for Beginners

This method of using unfed sourdough discard requires a high level of hands-on experience and the ability to assess the dough’s fermentation by feel. It’s generally not recommended for novice sourdough bakers who are still getting a feel for the process.

When to Consider Using Unfed Sourdough Starter Directly

There may be some situations where using sourdough discard directly in a bread recipe makes sense:

If the discard is relatively fresh, having been removed from the starter just recently, it may still have enough leavening power to work.

For more experienced bakers who can confidently gauge the dough’s fermentation progress by texture and appearance.

In recipes where a more pronounced, sour flavor is desirable, like rye or whole grain breads.

Recap

in most cases, it’s generally better to follow a more standard approach – either by creating a levain or by feeding your main starter before incorporating it into the dough. This will provide more predictable results and a better handle on the fermentation timeline.

The bottom line is that using unfed sourdough discard directly in a bread recipe is possible, but it does come with significant challenges and potential downsides. Approach it with caution, especially if you’re new to sourdough baking, and be prepared to make some adjustments to the process along the way.

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What to do if the sourdough starter recipe didn’t make as much as it was supposed to?

August 10, 2024 by admin Leave a Comment

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How Do You Feed Your Sourdough Starter in Cold Winter Temperatures?

August 10, 2024 by admin Leave a Comment

Winter sourdough starter tricks

What to do to speed up your sourdough starter so you can bake sourdough bread ASAP👇

Feed it flour that it loves

There are some flours that the starter loves because it has high amounts of a protein called amylase that helps the starter break down carbohydrates. 

These are: rye flour, sprouted barley flour, King Arthur white bread flour (includes the amylase enzyme and/or barley flour)

Add a little more water

The more hydration a starter/dough has, the faster it will ferment.  And the less water it has, the slower it will ferment.

Increase the temp

The higher the temp = the faster the fermentation.  So put your starter in a place where it will be super warm.  Like 88-98F warm.

Increase the humidity

Humidity will also increase your fermentation —but especially high temp + high humidity combined.

Put it in a proofer

If you have a proofer like I do, that would be the way to go.  You can control the temp and humidity at will.

Put it in the oven with the light on

The closer environment and heat source is enough to increase the temp to make your starter happy.

Leverage thermal mass

Here’s the absolute golden tip:

Boil water and put it in a big metal container —put this in small, enclosed area —your microwave/oven/closet and put your starter next to it.  Not touching, just next to it. 

Why?  Because water is good thermal mass (the ability of a material to absorb, store and release heat)

Doing all of this ☝️ has turbocharged my starter regardless of any winter temp.

📣 That being said, if you’d like the starter feeding schedule that I use to bake all my sourdough bread that I sell in my sourdough bakery, go here:

Roselle’s sourdough starter feeding schedule

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Is there an easier way to divide the sourdough into equal bread? Tips? Tricks? Math?

August 10, 2024 by admin Leave a Comment

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My sourdough starter never seems to double, can I still use it, or is it sourdough discard?

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Thanksgiving week I’m selling frozen sourdough bread and dinner rolls.  Thawing/heating directions?

August 9, 2024 by admin Leave a Comment

Okay so I think that the safest way to thaw and reheat Sourdough bread is to take it out of the freezer and let it thaw completely and then reheat it at 450 for about 10 minutes

You’ll probably see other people say something like, “oh you can just take it straight out of the freezer and put it in your oven at 325F and let that cook until it’s warmed through”

But then how do you know if it’s warm all the way through, right?

So I think the safest thing to do is to just to let it thaw and then reheat it at 450 for 10 minutes.

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How can I revive an OLD sourdough starter that’s been hibernating in the fridge?

August 9, 2024 by admin Leave a Comment

As long as your sourdough starter is alive, all you have to do is take it out of the fridge, wait for it to thaw and come to room temperature, and then you just discard a little bit and then feed it and then just wait and see for any kind of activity

I don’t think it’s dead, so just feed your sourdough starter and then wait for it to double in size.

Your sourdough starter should go up and down, up and down consistently.

It may take two or three feedings, but I think it’s still alive so long as you don’t see any signs of pink, orange, green, black, gray or fuzz.

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How wide is your oven? I saw 4 Challenger bread pans total in your oven

August 9, 2024 by admin Leave a Comment

I can fit 4 of these Dutch Ovens in my regular sized oven. My oven is a normal gas oven that came with the house. Nothing special. I have bought many Dutch Ovens during my sourdough bread baking journey and have found these to be the best ones.

They are basically Challenger Bread Pan knock-offs –at almost half the price.

I love them! You can find my Dutch ovens here.

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